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Poster: light into ashes Date: Feb 19, 2012 11:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of (BUMPED!)

[This was originally posted a year ago. I'm updating it now because an MP3 stream of this show is available to listen to online, and apparently has been for years, although many people may not know about it...]

I've heard that an MP3 of the Sirius broadcast of 3/26/72 has become available on Demonoid. (Though I haven't spotted it myself.)

The text notes:

Grateful Dead 3/26/72
Academy of Music, N.Y.C.
SBD/MR>?>Sirius Radio

This was a special treat that David Gans Played Christmas time 2008.
All have been waiting for the Miller version to surface for 2 years.
I've been told that it's not coming [Miller has asked that it not be distributed].
So HERE you are. Far better than it's presentation on Sirius.
In anycase this will scratch the Itch we've been left with.

Broadcast recorded 24/96 (Edirol R09)
Original signal was very compressed.
24/96>WL6 > UAD PultecPro >
Ozone4 >R8Brain 16/44.1

1st Set Disc1
1-Greatest Story
2-Cold,Rain & Snow
3-Chinatown Shuffle
4-Black Throated Wind
5-You Win Again
6-Mr.Charlie
7-Jack Straw
8-Loser
9-Looks Like Rain
10-Big Railroad Blues
11-Big Boss Man
12-Playing in TheBand
13-El Paso

Disc 2
1-Good Lovin'
2nd Set
2-Banter
3-Truckin'>
4-Other One Jam>
5-Drums>

Disc 3
1-Drums>
2-The Other One>
3-Me & My Uncle>
4-The Other One Reprise>
5-Wharf Rat>
6-Sugar Magnolia
7-Two Souls In Communion
8-Not Fade Away>
9-Goin' Down The Road>
10-Not Fade Away

2012 EDIT:
Though this MP3 torrent was taken off Demonoid, the complete show is actually available from David Gans' all-day KPFA marathon on Feb 9 2008:
http://www.kpfa.org/archive/date/2008/02/09
A low-quality, mono MP3 file of the whole marathon can be streamed - it's been split into 2-hour chunks. The day's playlist is here:
http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com/archives/723
Other shows played on that day include large pieces of May 3, 1977 and May 10, 1980. But for our purposes here, the portions of 3/26/72 can be found in these sections. (Note that there are frequently fundraising requests from Gans between songs.)

12:00 pm (starts 37 minutes in) -
Greatest Story Ever Told
Cold Rain and Snow
Chinatown Shuffle
Black-Throated Wind
You Win Again
Mr. Charlie
Jack Straw

2:00 pm (starts 14 minutes in) -
Loser
Looks Like Rain
Big Railroad Blues
Big Boss Man
Playing in the Band
El Paso
[Gans started playing Good Lovin' twice, but had a CD malfunction, so skip it here]

4:00 pm (starts 22 minutes in) -
Good Lovin'

8:00 pm -
Truckin'/ (just the start of the song, at the very end of the 2-hour section)

10:00 pm -
/end of Truckin'->jam->
drums->
The Other One->
Me and My Uncle->
The Other One->
Wharf Rat
Sugar Magnolia
The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)
Not Fade Away->
Goin’ Down the Road Feelin’ Bad->
Not Fade Away

This post was modified by light into ashes on 2012-02-19 19:00:09

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Mar 1, 2012 4:15am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of (BUMPED!)

Meant to post this last week but was delayed...

http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2012/03/32672-academy-of-music.html

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Poster: Jim F Date: Feb 20, 2011 12:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

I almost kind of like this one not being out there, it's the one and only last tape of the year that I drool over getting to hear someday.

That said, anybody got a link?

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Poster: rastamon Date: Feb 11, 2012 6:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

"I've been told that it's not coming [Miller has asked that it not be distributed]"

why would that be? It certainly can't be because it may be released commercially or the 4/8/72 CM wouldn't be at torrent sites

This post was modified by rastamon on 2012-02-11 14:07:47

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Feb 19, 2012 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

I think because with 4/8/72, the cat was already out of the bag, so to speak - the CM circulated for years before the E72 box release.

With 3/26/72, nothing's available to us except MP3s of radio broadcasts. This is not pristine listening. Though I think Miller has a copy of the master reels, the Dead organization probably asked him not to issue them since it's one of the few uncirculated shows they have for possible release in the future.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Feb 24, 2012 10:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

I just worked on that show last night, finally ran all 12 hours or whatever through Adobe Audition and created my own 3/26/72. Sure, I'd love to hear the pristine reel source, but this low-fi KPFA source is surprisingly easy to listen to. Probably because this is one of the HOTTEST shows of the year, in my opinion.

For years I'd built the show up as probably being the greatest thing ever recorded, simply because of it's inaccessibility. I was afraid I might have created expectations that were too high and could never be lived up to, but I was wrong. The Truckin>Other One jam is simply phenomenal. Anyone on their right mind would be quick to download those KPFA links, even if they are mono lo-fi mp3's.

Sure wish I could have picked up on that original torrent that was seeded on Demonoid, though... But even if I had, this is one show that I would most definitely purchase an official release of. I thought it might be used as a bonus with the Europe box, sortof a reward for being loyal and shelling out the cash. But on the other hand I suppose the set itself didn't need much convincing, no need to bribe someone to buy it by dangling 3/26 in front of them. Still, I will never understand why they released so much of 3/28 when they put out the Dick's Pick...the 3/26 jam is worlds apart from 3/28's Other One, which I actually find rather perfunctory.

Oh, and I think Gans sounded more pissed than I was when I came across all the hassle with the Good Lovin...

This post was modified by Jim F on 2012-02-25 06:49:05

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Feb 24, 2012 11:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

Wish I could've picked up a copy of the Sirius broadcast too, since it must sound better than these MP3s... I know, it's not awful, but Jerry's so low in the mix, it's like just listening to the Dead rhythm section. Admittedly, a different way to hear a show...

It's curious to me why you're so down on the 3/28/72 Other One. I didn't think it was boring or perfunctory! I liked it, and in fact, the ten minutes before the first verse I thought were particularly good... The 3/26 Other One struck me as more dense and driving and demented, though.
I thought the 3/21 Other One was the real weakling of the run, kind of unfocused.

The first set of 3/26 seemed pretty standard, no standouts except for Playing which was as good as always, and the Good Lovin' was very hot boogie-Dead. The NFA medley to close the show seemed about the same as the other versions from the run; they'd really tightened it up since late '71.

The funny thing is, 3/25/72 still gets overlooked because part of it's on the Dick's Picks, but we're still missing a big chunk of the second set, including Good Lovin', part of Playing & almost all of Lovelight. A complete SBD release of that show (with the full Bo Diddley set) would be REALLY great to hear.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Feb 25, 2012 12:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

I'm right on board with you on 3/25...I really wish we would see a complete-as-possible source for that one. At the least, if anything a full sbd of the Bo Diddley set. The Hanno aud is just a mess, but the "Moore" source (Jerry wasn't taping yet in March 72, was he?) is highly listenable. A shame it isn't complete. This run has always had it's troubles and has taken a long time to circulate as complete as it currently does. I remember when these shows were these seemingly unattainable setlists in my Deadbase that just sat there waiting to be marked with a high-liter. I don't think I'd have ever believed I would finally have as much of these shows as I do now, and for that I'm grateful.

I'm a big fan of the jams from late 71, I've always felt this run is really the bridge connecting what they'd been doing in the Fall with the amazing shit to come in Europe and beyond into the Fall of 72. I love the all-too-brief hybrid Dead featuring both Keith and Pigpen.

As for 3/26, yeah, it ain't perfect, but I don't really find the mix to be too big of a problem. It is a little too Bobby-heavy, and like most recordings from the era, I really wish they'd have dialed Pig's organ in a little higher now and then (I love that "new" aud from Pig's final show, it's like 68 style Pig in the "mix"). That was a nice thing about the Europe box, they took some effort to bring him up a bit now and then. Pig was still often playing some nice organ during that era, unfortunately we just rarely ever hear it.

re: 3/28 Other One
You know, I'm really not even sure now what it was that made me feel that it wasn't above average. I wouldn't say I didn't care for it, I just don't recall finding it all that exciting. I'm actually curious myself now, because it's probably been a good 2 years since I last listened to it (I admittedly don't listen to this run nearly as much as I should...there's some good sized chunks of first sets that I still haven't even listened to...I'm not proud of that). It might just be one of those things...I should put it on now, I'll probably come back and say it was the greatest Other One of the year. I dunno, the only disc I ever play from that DP is the first one with the Bo Diddley stuff.

I also have to admit that I haven't listened to all of 3/26 yet...so far I've only listened to the second set. Overall I've been in this approach for a number of years now where I don't really listen to much shorter songs and first sets. I tend to just go for the jams. I've been trying to work on that, though. I've started putting full shows from various bands on my portable player and listening on headphones while at work (looking forward to giving the recent Phil shows a listen on Sunday). Though I have to leave one ear open so I can only put in one earbud. It's making me listen to more AUDs, which work better if you're only listening in one ear. Sometimes I convert to mono for board tapes. It's not the ideal listening method, but considering I am at work it certainly beats no music. Can't go wrong getting paid to listen to Grateful Dead music.

Anyway, that was a mouthful, I didn't intend to ramble so much here. But I haven't been very active on the forum in a while, guess I'm due up. At any rate, before I head off for the night I might turn off 2/22/69 and throw on that Other One from 3/28/72 real quick...

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Feb 25, 2012 1:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

There's no shame in just listening to the jams! Many of those first-set '72 songs are pretty much interchangeable from night to night. (And this run in general, I think pales next to E72 shows.)
On 3/26 Playing is just wild, though, with great wah-wah climaxes, and Good Lovin' choogles full speed ahead!

Basically Jerry's the lowest in the 3/26 MP3 mix; bass & drums are right up-front, Pigpen can be heard, and Keith's actually louder than on any of the other Academy of Music SBDs, I think. Plus it's mono! (Of course, when you listen in just one ear, not such a big deal...)

The "Moore" source of 3/25 is actually the exact same source tape as Hanno's set II, it's just the copy Moore got - the transfer sounds a little different, but I'm not sure it's hugely better to my ears. (More 'dry,' perhaps.) It is, though, the most listenable AUD of this run by far. (The Dead set, that is; the Bo Diddley set sounds much worse, I think that was a different taper.)
Some of those AUDs are pretty painful! With all the tapers that were in New York, and all the nights, you'd think they could do better....

The reason this run never circulated is because it was part of the Betty Boards that did NOT go to traders who copied & seeded them - the guy who bought this set of reels wanted no one to have them (or, to be precise, he wanted a million dollars), and copies ended up going back to the Vault after Rob Eaton restored them. Which is why Miller, though he has Eaton's DATs, does not have permission to release more of them. I guess we're lucky enough that, due to the efforts of Gans and Miller, we have full copies of two of the shows (plus the released 28th).

With the 3/28 Other One, I would pay particular attention to the part from about 5-15 minutes...

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Poster: philside92 Date: Mar 1, 2012 4:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

i once asked charlie about this run and he pretty much said that unless they release it as a box set, there's no chance we'll hear the sbds.

and so i continue to dream.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Feb 24, 2011 1:11am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

Can't believe this didn't get more of a response...still would love a link if anyone's got one!

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Poster: Harry McQuillen Date: Feb 9, 2012 11:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

Well it was broadcast on the Grateful Dead Marathon on KPFA 2/9/08 and you can listen to it in low quality mp3 here:

http://www.kpfa.org/archive/date/2008/02/09

I am still looking for this in higher quality though, it was torrented on demonoid but seems to have disappeared from there.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Feb 9, 2012 11:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

Well damn this one's an oldie but goodie! Which link exactly has the part with 3/26/72? I don't care how bad it sounds, I really want to hear it.

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Poster: Harry McQuillen Date: Feb 9, 2012 11:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

It is spread in several chunks throughout - playlist here:

http://cloudsurfing.gdhour.com/archives/723

mp3's are downloadable too...

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Poster: Jim F Date: Feb 12, 2012 1:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

...thanks again for the link...I threw some of the show onto a disc for my drive to and from the DSO show in St. Louis tonight, man, what a mindblowing Other One. I really don't understand why they released so much of 3/28 on the Dick's Picks, I find that Other One rather boring, certainly nowhere near as powerful as the jam from the 26th. This show deserves upgrade treatment more than almost any other I can think of. Till then, these lo-fi MP3's will have to do. I still enjoyed the hell out of it.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Feb 11, 2012 1:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 3/26/72 SBD out, sort of

Nice, thanks a lot. I couldn't seem to find the playlist for the program last night, I just kept going in circles. Sincerely, muchas gracias.